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Will MS release DX10 for XP

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#1 VROSA

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 11:22 AM

images/news/windows.jpgDX10 is do-able on Windows XP

Microsoft backpedals for Nvidia, you lose


By Charlie Demerjian: Wednesday 11 July 2007, 08:56

EVER WONDER WHY MS refuses to release DX10 for XP, forcing users to Linux, and barring that, Vista - also known as Me II? It is easy, there was a technical reason, but it shot that down when Nvidia couldn't cut it. Now it is simply arm twisting. The original reason was that DX10 required graphics memory to be virtualisable, a laudable goal. You can see hints of it here and here among other places. This was a good thing, perhaps a really good thing, and Microsoft was clamping down on requirements with the usual subtlety of a convicted monopolist.

This would not work with XP, and that was fine and dandy. It was an honest technical reason why you could not backport DX10 to XP without a major rip and replace operation. Microsoft wasn't going to bend on this one at all.

Then something odd happened. Nvidia had about as much success implementing this required feature as it did with it Me II drivers, that is to say, none. It couldn't do it, but it was required for DX10. What's an arm twisting Vole to do? Backpedal obviously.

So, MS threw NV a life preserver and made GPU memory virtualisation completely optional. ATI, which had implemented a dandy memory virtualisation scheme got screwed, or at least got what everyone who partners with MS got. Oh wait, I said that.

In any case, in doing this, MS removed the only impediment to backporting DX10 to XP, it is now, and has been for quite a while, completely possible. MS is screwing its customers to force an upgrade and you are a pawn in their revenue generation scheme.

Sadly, I will admit that I did upgrade. I went from XP to Ubuntu and bought a Wii. Life could not be better now, gaming is fun again, and spyware is a distant memory.

Windows Live, DX10 looking up for XP

Gears of change for Gears of War?


By Wily Ferret: Friday 13 July 2007, 07:59

WE'RE HEARTING rumours out of sunny Santa Monica that the Windows Live programme isn't quite as Vista-centric as Volish operatives would like us to think. With Gears of War being announced for PC, creator Cliff Blezinski has been telling journalists that the game is coming to Windows XP as well as Vista, complete with Games for Windows Live integration for multiplayer and achievements.

G4WL!, as it is snappily abbreviated, is currently Vista-only and supported in Microsoft showcase titles Halo 2 and ShadowRun. Gears is, like these two, a Microsoft Game Studios title, but it seems like the playbook may be torn up at the behest of the rock-star developers. Meanwhile, Microsoft is issuing press releases left, right and centre announcing more XP G4WL! titles, including Viva Pinata. Confusion reigns in California.


Will this also mean an appearance for DX10 on XP? :lust:




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Posted 13 July 2007 - 12:22 PM

Even though I voted "Yes", I think "Maybe" would have been a better answer. With Vista sales tanking like they are, MS needs to do something that will bring some excitement to Windows. DirectX 10 in XP could also be used as a marketing tool for Vista. Saying something along the line...."See how great your DX10 games run in XP, they will run better in Vista. Buy a copy of Vista today." Now whether that is really true or not, it does make a pretty good marketing statement. MS needs to figure out a way to start recovering some of the $billions$ poured into Vista. A catchy idea like DX10 might prove to be a motivator for some adoption by XP owners (me NOT being one of them :lust: )...talker. :)

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 04:07 PM

What Talker, said!

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 08:51 PM

What the F? Microsoft went and got soft. Don't get me wrong, i could care less if Dx10 is for XP or not, i don't game (besides my FFXI fix i am on until kollege starts back up again); but come on MS and nVidia, get it together. I guess i just need to throw up my hands and say "WHATEVER".

-Sorry, i guess i am in a pissy mood since i seem to be having problems installing adobe suite with vista this time around. Don't mind me, it will pass...

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 10:31 PM

aero not far behind? i'd hit it :lust:

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 02:05 AM

View Postm.oreilly, on Jul 13 2007, 06:31 PM, said:

aero not far behind? i'd hit it :lust:
DirectX10? Maybe. Aero? Don't count on it. The Vista Home Basic doesn't even have it. Or maybe they wil come up with a XP Ultimate that will have Aero! :)

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 04:08 AM

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 04:40 AM

lol...:lust: :) Very good M.0. :P :)

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 07:22 AM

View Postvrosa x64, on Jul 13 2007, 09:40 PM, said:

lol... :) :P Very good M.0. :) :P

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 10:51 AM

WOOT!




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Posted 14 July 2007 - 07:37 PM

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