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[chriso_86]

It's not just LA's problem, it's just more apparent since you guys have Hollywood which holds most of the movie stars in the country.

[talker]

Yes, there is something wrong with the judicial system in this country universally. The problem(s) are NOT the law enforcement, courts, judges, or even the system within itself. The system is setup correctly. The problem(s) is US, you and me. We are the ones that either elect or allow appointment of worthless judges that have no more sense being on a judicial bench than a 2 year old. We expect our law enforcement personell to strap on a bullet proof vest in order to go to work and pay them less than adequate wages (how would you like a job that required kevlar?) We then hamstring law enforcement and the courts with all the "protections for civil rights loop holes" that are big enough to drive a semi through. It has often been said that the defendent has more rights than the arresting officer. Granted, the Paris Hilton case has become a 3 ring circus but due to her notiriety, there is much that must be done to protect her physically while in jail. This puts a strain on an already over worked and under budgeted system. The media, as is often the case, has made this much worse than it really is. Our law enforcement departments and courts are greatly understaffed and over worked and we wonder what the problem is. As I have often said, we, the arm chair quarterback, are the problem(s). We gripe, fuss, type, and do all the things that, in the long run, accomplish NOTHING. We fail to voice our opinions at the polls, in letters to our officials, in out spoken campaining and support for candidates and bills that will reinforce the system not continue the status quo. As with many things in this great nation, The United States, the problem is not the system itself but those that are called..."we the people"...talker.

[Tweak]

Her family is why she is anything, on her own merits she has little if anything to offer, on top of that she and many others think they are above the law, we hold celebs in such high regard because they entertain us, docs who save lives or people that make me laugh...I think the pay scale is backwards. I am glad she is back in jail and feel she purely deserves it for breaking the rules/laws, if only people would smack the celebs so they know the deal more often.

[banj0]

Hey Talker! Good to see you. And good post. I was wondering if I interpreted this correctly:

talker, on Jun 9 2007, 08:09 AM, said:

We then hamstring law enforcement and the courts with all the "protections for civil rights loop holes" that are big enough to drive a semi through. It has often been said that the defendent has more rights than the arresting officer.

Constitutionally at least, the defendants and the officers have the same rights, yes? I think I know what you're saying---about how people that are obviously guilty are getting off because of some technicality? If so, remember that the opposite is also true---how many times now has someone been let out of jail because of modern DNA testing? Or because of evidence that was hidden by a zealous prosecutor?

The burden is on the people to prove guilt in a court of law. It's a heavy burden to be sure. And imho, every law enforcement officer in the country should be making much, much more money than they do. But, if the system is heavily weighted toward a defendant then the system is working as it was intended. Better to have the guilty go free than the innocent locked up.

What would be ideal is if we could get a few of those government branches to start upholding the constitution. It's only been, what, 100+ years since we've had that?

[Camaro]

I agree banjo, and talker, one thing I completely agree with talker about our elected officials are in place because we put them there they are implementing there own agenda after the campaign promises are thrown out the window though, how are we to elect based on lie's an then expect them to do what we want them too.

[Christopholofigus]

eniparadoxgma, on Jun 7 2007, 09:45 PM, said:

This is just another example of just how broken the machine has become.

If Joe Schmo had been speeding on a suspended license with no headlights on at night and broke his probation, he'd have to do his 90 days like anyone else.

Bah.

What machine? Shite, the machine was parted out long ago...meh, what do i know though...