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Posted 28 October 2006 - 04:31 PM

Don't know if you guys heard the news...Larry Ellison of Oracle is getting behind RedHat he's offering to debug Linux systems for less than the RedHat distributor. I'm not sure what it all means but RedHat may just become the distro that competes with MS.

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 08:53 PM

I have been using Fedora Core x86_64 since version 4, now at version 6. It is based on Redhat and has a very exellent forum. The installation is user friendy, but I suggest you do some reading up, before attempting an install, just so you understand the proccess involed.
I have Vista RC1 on a dual boot setup and not impressed at all. I do not intend to buy the new Windows, mainly due to the cost.
I get what I want with Linux, and if I want to use Windows programs, there is the Wine emulator, with can be installed later and it works great.
There are some good games ported to Linux, plus Windows games can be played through an enulator as Wine or Cedaga. I recomment Cedaga, as it is designed to work with graphics and sound cards at a deeper level than the othe simulaors ie Wine and Crossover Office.
The only way you can determine if Linux is for you, is to obtain a Live CD/DVD, or install one on a spare drive or partition. Most distros are based on several of the main ones, such as Redhat, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo and BSD. RH and Debian based distros tend to be more user friendly, especially for newbies.
I personally recomment a distro based one Redhat, as they are more stable and have better support forums. I base my opinions on the fact that, I have test drove every distro available. I have over 100 CD's and DVD's of Linux "flavors" of ISO's downloaded. So I have a pretty good idea of what worked for me. That also includes Solaris 10.

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 10:28 PM

I'm switching to Linux myself :yahoo:

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 10:59 PM

I have to question dwflow's argument of RH and Debian based are more stable. You claim you tried them all... but my experience is Gentoo is the most stable, because it's build around your system. The downside of it offcourse is it's not too easy installation.

But I've been a happy Gentoo user for more then any distro I tried before (Which I mean without having problems I couldn't solve), and I've used Linux for about I thunk 8 years now...

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 02:35 AM

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When Microsoft announced that it is only legal to transfer Vista from one computer to another once, there was a lot of negative feedback. Since Microsoft defined a new motherboard as a new computer, people do not like the idea of having to pay for a new copy of Windows Vista every time they swap out their motherboard. Microsoft has clarified their policy. Windows Vista features a new version of Windows Genuine Advantage that is much smarter. Users that swap out individual components and have to reinstall their copy of Windows Vista because of doing so will no longer be accused by Windows Genuine Advantage of having a non-valid copy of Windows. And even if Windows Genuine Advantage cannot validate Windows, users can call Microsoft by phone and get their copy "remediated". The Windows Genuine Advantage program was instated by Microsoft in an effort to curb software piracy.

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 04:23 AM

View PostSphere, on Oct 28 2006, 05:59 PM, said:

I have to question dwflow's argument of RH and Debian based are more stable. You claim you tried them all... but my experience is Gentoo is the most stable, because it's build around your system. The downside of it offcourse is it's not too easy installation.

But I've been a happy Gentoo user for more then any distro I tried before (Which I mean without having problems I couldn't solve), and I've used Linux for about I thunk 8 years now...
I too liked Gentoo, I have not run it very much, infact it has only been on my computer for a total of about one month, I liked that it was taylor made for me an my system it difficulty in installing is not always a bad thing it gives one a idea of the true command line system an it shows you the inner workings of the O/S, The only real downside is it does not like my current hardware specifically my Graphics card, DA<M ATI lol :yahoo:

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 06:56 AM

I went Ubuntu 6.10

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 08:36 AM

Sorry but I must play devils advocate here. I am or rather was an avid user of Linux. I always used Debian based distros and am/was impressed.

Why I like linux, its stable, reliable, secure (of cause you have to configure it to get it as stable, reliable or secure as you want it) don't forget the fact that it doesn't call home etc.

What I don't like:

Many people love the fact that there are 100s of versions avaliable out there but does it make sense? Lets think about this, imagine if RH, Suse, Ubuntu etc all released one distro? Wouldn't it be more complete?

Now I wish that Linux distros would get the idea of using service packs more often. Some distros such as Ubuntu release a new version every 6 months. What would be better waiting +-2 years for a new distro that is worth the trouble of upgrading the whole system.

I believe that Linux has come a long way but it has a long way to go. Once true plug and play support, drivers etc are avaliable then it will become a viable option for a lot of people.

I look at my new system, I have an option now either Linux or XP 64 bit. Why did I choose XP 64 bit, because

a) Most of the programs I use run on it
b) Hardware drivers and installation is easily installed
c) Using the appropiate software its secure
d) Its as stable as I need it to be

We all complain about Microsoft? But in the end we still end up using their products. If it is so bad then people must stop using Microsoft products and use alternatives

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 08:56 AM

its amazing how topics get twisted LOL but being that this turned into a Linux topic ! Is there any one that would work well On a old k7 550 amd ?

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 09:14 AM

Guess what I'm running on my K6-2 475 MHz 120 MB RAM?

Correct, Xubuntu (X-window version of K/Ubuntu)

Don't ask why it's not Gentoo... consider compiling on such a thing :yahoo:

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 10:38 AM

cool I will have to find a copy somewhere ?

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 11:59 AM

I'm guessing Google :yahoo:

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 02:37 PM

google work well i have a iso copy just have to burn it

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Posted 30 October 2006 - 02:49 AM

I like ubuntu, I like gentoo as well.

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 12:27 AM

Twist away! Between SCSIguru and I we raised some hell at Pamd64 with going ot. :(

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On October 16th, Microsoft thought it would be a good idea to limit the amount of times users transferred their Windows Vista license. There was a humongous outcry from computer hobbyists, and Microsoft has officially decided to let users transfer their copy of Windows Vista from one machine to another as many times as they like. This is of course assuming that the copy of Windows Vista is genuine, and that the said copy of Windows Vista is no longer on the machine Windows Vista was transferred from. Microsoft will not change any other components of their license, which includes a limit on running Windows Vista in a virtual machine.


We have broke the walls of Microsoft!
To bad thats as far as it will go, but its enough for me.





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