40 replies to this topic

[Neon]

you just wanna setup that internet network, and i don't blame ya

[ShadowFox]

It's a router carl... not a hub, houbs are completely different I bought it because it IS a router and not a hub... it just needs to be upgraded that's all.

[Neon]

Damn man listen to me cos i won't say this again...

I NEVER SAID IT WASN'T A ROUTER DID I!!!!!!!!!!

[RedInferno]

Visentinel, on Oct 18 2005, 11:40 PM, said:

nonono it IS a router, it more than likely is designed to connect to a Broadband modem of any kind like Satnet / Cable / ADSL

you connect the modem to the router's Internet Network Connection and the router connects to the internet using PPPoE, the modem is used as a Bridge, The Computers plug to the Routers LAN Network Plugs.

Still i just think its better to use a Modem/Router so its all built into a single Package also with Built in Modem/Routers when you have ADSL you can use PPPoA where necessary, some isp's use Either PPPoE or PPPoA Encapsulation and if you don't use the same encapsulation as your ISP you loose like 15k/sec of Bandwidth or more on your Upload / Download.

Remind me...what are te differences between PPPoE and PPPoA? PPPoE stands or Point to Point protocal over ethernet, what's PPPoA stand for? And what's the difference?

[Visentinel]

PPPoA is Point to Point over ATM

If the Backhaul Configuration of your ISP is based on Ethernet then PPPoE Encapsulation is what you use but If they use ATM Networks then you use PPPoA

The Actual Differences are Unknown to me, iv never Researched ATM Networks, In most cases both Modes work fine the only side affect is a small bit of Bandwidth lost due to Encapsulation Conversion.

[RedInferno]

Yeah...aren't ATM's like those things in banks?

[ShadowFox]

yeah... typically.

[Nvyseal]

My mom had a switch, she used it on me quite a few times when i was little!!

[ShadowFox]

wrong kind of switch Dave... My dad used the leather belt O.o

[Nvyseal]

ShadowFox, on Oct 20 2005, 09:52 PM, said:

wrong kind of switch Dave... My dad used the leather belt O.o

oh.. well, nevermind then. But if anyone needs a switching its Karl!!

[Visentinel]

RedInferno, on Oct 21 2005, 06:37 AM, said:

Yeah...aren't ATM's like those things in banks?

ShadowFox, on Oct 21 2005, 02:02 PM, said:

yeah... typically.

did this thread just get silly :rolleyes:

ATM stands for Asynchronous Transfer Mode
ATM Networks have more bandwidth in one direction than another, generally an ISP offering ADSL to an area will use an ATM network to lower the cost of the backhaul by using more of the Fiber bandwidth on upstream, towards the customers since adsl has more Download than it does Upload.

It wouldnt make sense to rollout 5 fibers at 155mb each way to provide the Bandwidth to the ADSL customers if you can rollout 3 250mb/50mb fibers.

[ShadowFox]

I was just answering his question... yes ATM's are typically the machines at banks... he didn't ask what you meant by your post or I'd have replied with something similar to what you said.

[RedInferno]

Visentinel, on Oct 21 2005, 04:43 AM, said:

did this thread just get silly :rolleyes:

ATM stands for Asynchronous Transfer Mode
ATM Networks have more bandwidth in one direction than another, generally an ISP offering ADSL to an area will use an ATM network to lower the cost of the backhaul by using more of the Fiber bandwidth on upstream, towards the customers since adsl has more Download than it does Upload.

It wouldnt make sense to rollout 5 fibers at 155mb each way to provide the Bandwidth to the ADSL customers if you can rollout 3 250mb/50mb fibers.

AHHHHHH.....

[gamer_pro_2000]

I think that this topic has gotten a little off topic. We went from routers to parental punishment(lol).

[Neon]

Well lets get back to the topic, who here has a Router/Switch OR Hub?

Which do you use OR do you use a patch cable?