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#1 WFO

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 12:48 AM

http://www.dfi-stree...forum/index.php

Forum apparently no longer accessible. In a nutshell, after at least 4 weeks testing the ICFX3200-T2R/G based on the RD-600 chip, Happy Games came out and said: Unless you have extreme cooling (meaning phase or better) you won't get more than a 3.6 24/7 stable overclock on the Conroe of your choice. I'm paraphrasing because I couldn't access the direct quote. He went on to say only the top 1% of all overclockers would benefit from all the bios options in DFI's new baby. In his opinion, the Infinity 975 G/X would be enough for the other 99%. Obviously this did not play well as the site is shut down some 48 hours later. :chriso: :chriso: :(

Edited by WFO, 06 January 2007 - 01:52 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2007 - 01:26 AM

Sad news!

I've used many DFI boards in my time and HG has always spoken 'how it is' with their products.......this one obviously didn't go down too well......?

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 02:10 AM

That is to bad!!! I am sorry to hear that as well. That was a great site, I sure loved my DFI board and that site came in handy a number of times!!

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 02:15 AM

Just thought I'd post the e-mails in case anyone was too lazy to click the link. :chriso: And yes, Scara, HG's integrity cannot be questioned. :chriso:

News Update: January 5th, 2007

As of today, DFI has decided that honesty and integrity are not their cup of tea.

DFI and DFI-Street.com have parted ways because of this.

If you are at all inclined to complain about the situation, here are some email addresses that you should send letters to:

Frank Wong - DFI USA Support Manager
frankwong@dfiweb.com


Ed Huang - Head of North American DFI Operations:
edhuang@dfiweb.com


YC - CEO of DFI (Taiwan):
YC@dfi.com.tw

DFI-Street.com will no longer be supporting DFI products unless your emails generate a response from DFI HQ and they decide to continue to purchase advertising or support help.

In the meantime, DFI-Street.com is now available for open advertising, or even for outright purchase.

If you are interested in a joint-venture of content or wish to use DFI-Street's heavy enthusiast traffic base to promote your products, please contact me via telephone:

208-573-7737

and leave a voice message with your name, telephone number, and any pertinent information as to the nature of your call.

Travis "Happy_Games" Hill
DFI-Street.com owner/admin

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 02:41 AM

Do they really rely so heavily on DFI's advertising dollars that they have to shut the whole thing down after 48 hours? I doubt it. Shutting it down that fast is probably just a way to get as many customers to complain as possible. Understandable, but a better explanation of the situation would be good.

I seem to remember another community being threatened like this for giving unfavorable reviews. PlanetAMD64.com. This was a while back. I don't think they've given any unfavorable reviews since then. :chriso: :chriso:

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 07:50 AM

Now Brew, what are you implying? :chriso:

I do feel bad for Pyro and Soundx98. They put a lot of work in over there. Remember the work it took modding Pamd64? They were doing it at the Planet and Dfi-street.

Happy Games was a no-bs guy that helped a lot of people. I wouldn't trade my Expert for anything right now but it can be finicky. I'd hate to imagine beta-testing the thing.

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 08:19 AM

View Postbanj0, on Jan 6 2007, 01:50 AM, said:

Now Brew, what are you implying? :chriso:

I do feel bad for Pyro and Soundx98. They put a lot of work in over there. Remember the work it took modding Pamd64? They were doing it at the Planet and Dfi-street.
I didn't mean to imply anything. When a company gives you a product to review, they expect you to write posiitively about it. When you don't, the company might never send another product for review again. It's a tough situation.

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Happy Games was a no-bs guy that helped a lot of people. I wouldn't trade my Expert for anything right now but it can be finicky. I'd hate to imagine beta-testing the thing.
I liked my Lanparty a lot too. They're good boards.

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btw, Brew. You are now my chess fodder. Huzzah!!! heehee.
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Posted 07 January 2007 - 01:52 AM

View Postbrewin, on Jan 5 2007, 06:41 PM, said:

Do they really rely so heavily on DFI's advertising dollars that they have to shut the whole thing down after 48 hours? I doubt it. Shutting it down that fast is probably just a way to get as many customers to complain as possible. Understandable, but a better explanation of the situation would be good.

I seem to remember another community being threatened like this for giving unfavorable reviews. PlanetAMD64.com. This was a while back. I don't think they've given any unfavorable reviews since then. :chriso: :chriso:

Looks like you are right Brew! This appeared today...

"Oops, forgot to alert everyone:
Anyone that has a current "For Sale / For Trade" deal going, please let me know via email and I will make sure to get you the proper information.

The FS/FT forum section is saved and will be soon be active again, but in the meantime, contact me and I'll make sure you and your trading partner are able to communicate."

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 03:58 AM

View PostWFO, on Jan 6 2007, 07:52 PM, said:

Looks like you are right Brew! This appeared today...

"Oops, forgot to alert everyone:
Anyone that has a current "For Sale / For Trade" deal going, please let me know via email and I will make sure to get you the proper information.

The FS/FT forum section is saved and will be soon be active again, but in the meantime, contact me and I'll make sure you and your trading partner are able to communicate."
Heh, yeah, I think DFI-Street will be back up as soon as they've sufficiently "stuck it to the man." :chriso:

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 04:41 AM

View Postbrewin, on Jan 6 2007, 07:58 PM, said:

Heh, yeah, I think DFI-Street will be back up as soon as they've sufficiently "stuck it to the man." :storm:

it looks like they didn't stick it far enough...

News Update: January 11th, 2007

*GASP!* An Update? Please read on as we've got some new news!


Attention all DFI-Street members and potential members!

DFI-Street will have a name change shortly and will bring with it all the information that the street was famous for as well as new sections for all motherboard manufacturers as well as everything else related to a PC.

We will be taking the forums to The Next Level in content and information.

All of the past members of DFI-Street will not have to re-register as we kept all the information from the street database and you will even retain your post counts.

Hopefully we will see you there at the grand opening!!!

PS: YES, ALL of the previous DFI-Street information, all the posts, all the threads, all the guides, EVERYTHING, is going to be in the new site, so you won't have missed anything but a few days worth of posting!

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 11:09 AM

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 10:15 PM

There is more to the story than I originally thought. I found this post on another forum....





Originally Posted by Happy_Games
"if you read any of this thread, you'd see more than a few phase users, so you should maybe read instead of just posting something without actually knowing what it is you are talking about.

from my posts so far, you are dead wrong that I am mad at the world, and should refer to the previous paragraph about reading before running off at the fingers (mouth) about what you THINK I am doing.

mad at the world?

no

worried about my job and rgone's job?

more than you can imagine.

they've already let go Jacky, head of our USA division. If I hadn't stepped up and actually called him and alerted him, he would have shown up tomorrow to work to find out he was fired...surprise surprise! Instead, he resigned before he could be insulted and embarrassed. They are trying to get rid of me and rgone because we cost too much money...which would leave you a total of TWO tech support persons in all of North America...and one of them is barely fluent in english, and neither of them know diddly-squat about overclocking and more importantly neither know diddly-squat about what YOU, the overclockers, want, nor do they know your mindset, your wishes, etc.

No one in TW has a clue except Oskar, and he's in his own little insulated world where he tests hand-picked cpu's and hand-picked ram on his own hand-made motherboards then can't figure out why we and thousands of customers can't get something to work (because we didn't use a $1200 cpu and $600 hand-picked RAM like he did).

If Rgone and I are no longer around, you will see a huge huge huge shift in how things go as customers. DFI will no longer have someone like us around to inform you of the reality of situations, no longer will we be around to help you, answer your questions, teach you the ins and outs of what these boards can do (or even must be done with/to them to get them to work proper right out of the box).

You'll lose this forum and end up having to send support email requests directly to either whats left of the USA office (where again you will get 1 fluent english speaking tech who knows next to nothing about overclocking, and one semi-fluent english speaking tech who knows absolutely ZERO about overclocking), or to TW support who will do to you what they've always done...send a screenshot back showing cpu-z and a single 3dmark2001 or 2005 etc benchmark and the famous quote they always give "it works for us".

It's bad enough you have to wait months and months, and sometimes never, to get a bios update to fix a problem.

Go to the ATI AMD section and find out how wonderfully happy customers are that the CFX3200-DR is still not working properly, the RDX200 never did work properly, and there's still no fix, and never will be a fix.

Then talk to those who purchased the NF3 939 Ultra-D (and at the same time, take a wonder as to why only about 100 of them were sold in USA before we told them to pull them as we wouldn't support them here).

Rgone and I are honestly the small, thin support that keeps DFI going, and keeps you guys feeling secure enough to keep purchasing these complex, finicky boards.

Imagine now how you'll feel without us around.

Most of you probably won't give a crud either way...at first....until all of these things that you are used to and comfortable with (this forum, how we do things, how we help support you overclockers) are gone, and you are left with a simple email address and you try to explain to non-overclockers, non-tweakers, and mostly non-english speakers why your complex setup that cost you $1000+ won't work properly....and then you try to decipher the reply that you get...

mad at the world?

no

worried about our jobs?

most definitely

taking it out on the forum?

no

watching DFI destroy themselves over the last 2+ years after we had the top spot in the market because of horrible decisions and elitist attitudes that Rgone and I are stupid americans and know nothing about the industry?

yeah, it's frightening...especially when you see everyone else that has pretty much followed this same path before us (Epox anyone? there's many more examples if you really really want me to list them out for you).

being a jerk to you?

no

being realistic even if it's brutal and gets me in trouble or even fired?

that's just who I am. I tell you the truth, you decide if it's true or if you somehow know more than I do about what is going on and run your yap trying to convince others that you are a know-it-all and I am foolish.

The truth is the truth, whether you accept it or not."

BTW DFI has a new corporate forum up headed byRGone

http://csd.dficlub.o...gpbb2/index.php

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 10:35 PM

was he "angry gamer" at one point?

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:09 AM

Yep, "Angry Games."

Good guy though, imho.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:27 AM

I read through 7 pages in yet another forum and came up with this link which seems to prove DFI is cutting back on enthusiast support as intimated above.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/di...0926062346.html

The thread I pulled the link above out of is here...

http://www.hardforum...d.php?t=1140859

Edited by WFO, 15 January 2007 - 06:44 AM.





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