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#1 VROSA

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 11:13 AM

Though my quad is quite stable beyond 3.33 GHz it's heating a lot under high load (Tjunction not rarely reach 80C during folding). :cheers:

On monday I'm gonna order a new cooler, but I'd like to have your input first.

I'm currently considering these options:

Cooler iCEAGE 120 Prima Boss (R$ 179 ~ US$ 99)
Cooler Zalman CNPS7500-Cu LED (R$ 107 ~ US$ 59)
Cooler Gigabyte G-Power II (R$ 109 ~ US$ 60)

*Local reseller prices

What do you think ?

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 11:26 PM

heck vlad, i dunno...the zals have always been good to me, but if you are doing heavy oc'ing, you might want to go water, or beyond. i would do water, at least. the blocks/radiators out these days are pretty much all very effective, so the big thing would be buying a decent pump.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 12:36 AM

I 2nd the Zalman, as I've never had a problem with them and they're my aftermarket cooler brand 'o' choice.

Also, I know I'm being irrational, but there's no way you could get me to run water anywhere near the inside of my computer. :cheers:

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 12:41 AM

None.

Water only. :cheers:

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:26 AM

That is a 3 years old rig and it's been overclocked since the first day. Intel stock cooler is quite good, but I think it's not working as good as it used to do, though as M.O. said, I'm on quite hard oc'ing now (+42% over stock 2.4 GHz >> 3.4 GHz).

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PC Wizard 2010 (Under load)

Owner : Microsoft

Organisation : Microsoft

User : Vladimir

Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate Professional 6.01.7600

Report Date : sbado 20 fevereiro 2010 at 22:54



Voltage, Temperature and Fans

Hardware Monitoring : Winbond W83627DHG

Voltage CPU : 1.38 V

+3.3V Voltage : 3.31 V

+5V Voltage : 4.73 V

+12V Voltage : 12.14 V

Processor Fan : 3214 rpm

Chassis Fan : 2481 rpm

Power/Aux Fan : 4856 rpm

CPU1 : 3409 rpm

Processor Temperature : 56 C

Mainboard Temperature : 39 C

Processor :

Intel Core 2 Quad (Core 1) : 80 C

Intel Core 2 Quad (Core 2) : 79 C

Intel Core 2 Quad (Core 3) : 78 C

Intel Core 2 Quad (Core 4) : 80 C

ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series : ATI Catalyst Driver

GPU Temperature : 74.5 C

GPU Fan : 54.0%

Hard Disk Monitoring : S.M.A.R.T

Hard Disk SAMSUNG HD502HI (Assembly) : 27 C

Hard Disk SAMSUNG HD502HI (Airflow) : 27 C


The main reason I'm looking for an air solution is price, 'cos I have to save money to get a HD5850...... but today I found an All-In-One watercooler for a very good price. Considering your thoughts and that thing I think I will go for water.

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What do you think of that? Worth?

I can have one for R$ 168,00 (US$ 93)

All the other water solutions I've found are much morer expensive!

Kit Watercooler Topcooler AMD/Intel ~ R$ 480 (US$ 266)
Kit Watercooler Corsair INTEL775 ~ R$ 560 (US$ 310)




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Posted 21 February 2010 - 07:53 PM

very interesting...i'll take a look at this...

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 08:04 PM

this gets a good review, and seems a great air option

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:50 AM

As I couldn't find that All-In-One watercooler here, I ended up with a iCEAGE Prima Boss air solution. It's already doing the job, though I think it's performance will increase after burn in time. How long do you think thermal paste takes to be at full potential? It came with a 1.5g tube of IceCream v2.

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3R System iCEAGE Prima Boss CPU Cooler Review by Hardware Secrets

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/836/8


The 3R System iCEAGE Prima Boss seemed to be a good cooler at first look, but it proved to be an excellent one.Its performance was on the same level of the best coolers we have tested under this methodology, even with a lower price than most of them. Its noise level is excellent at low speeds and acceptable at maximum settings. We really like the practicality of automatic speed control fans, but the fact this one comes with a manual fan controller that allows you to adjust speed without opening your case is really nice, allowing you to choose if you want maximum performance when noise level does not matter or sacrify a little performance when silence is desirable or necessary. Finally, the transparent four blue LEDs fan gives an "icy" look to your computer (obviously, if you have a side window on your case).

For all this, the 3R System iCEAGE Prima Boss deserves the Hardware Secrets Golden Award seal.

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And it has 4 cool blue LEDs and a speed controler

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:53 AM

that thing is massive! Does it have special mounts in the back of the mobo?

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:00 AM

Yes, I had to remove the board to affix the base. It gave me some work to install, took about an hour to do the job. :cheers:

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:04 AM

I know I am too late, but on mounting new coolers, here's a funny top-tip:
- Take a soft cloth, preferably cotton
- Mount the cloth on a belt-sander or some other sort of sander
- Set the sander to it's lowest speed
- Softly let the piece of cloth polish the cooling-block

When done, clean the cooling-block with pure alcohol.

It really, really, I've tested it really, saves you 3 degrees C., up to 5 for me in the best case scenario.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:36 AM

Thanks anyway Sphere ! :cheers:

Ops... 3-5C are not to a think to throw away.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:47 AM

View Postvrosa x64, on Feb 24 2010, 02:36 AM, said:

Thanks anyway Sphere ! :cheers:

Ops... 3-5C are not to a think to throw away.

:cheers:
Depends hu :gsg9: My default temps of 33 in idle went to 28 in idle, my 39 went to 36 in load... I'm guessing it's not much in that case, but reaching the edge is just that. If you wanna reach the edge, polishing it all yourself "again" is worth the effort for an hour of work in total. Just make sure you have a really soft cloth and/or pad to use for polish.

I have once tried the car-polish thingy. That's a bad result. Really, really, really soft and smooth is the answer on this, lately, I use an old sweater which seems to be working. a non-fleece sweater btw. It's gotta be cotton, fleece and such will only static-charge the block

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 03:09 AM

looks good vlad. i like those big @ssed tower coolers, as they are quite effective.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:53 PM

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looks good vlad. i like those big @ssed tower coolers, as they are quite effective.

I'm loving it :cheers:

Today I ran IntelBurnTest again and what a surprise!... During a "10x standard test" CPU (Tcase) kept between 37-42C and Tjunction between 60-65C... what means a decrease of arround 5C in core temps and something about 10C in CPU temp. I read some thermal compunds reviews and it seems that in the first 24 hs there's already a nice thermal conductivity gain, but full potential is only reached in 200 hs or more. I left my rig folding all the night to begin curing the paste and I think it was worth.

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The first 2 cores are always 2 to 3C hotter than the others :cheers:




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