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#1 Nvyseal

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 02:20 PM

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With Windows Vista SP1, there have been several improvements to my user experience I think are worth sharing. The first thing I noticed after installing SP1 was the logon experience when logging into Windows Vista. In entering my password, and logging into my account, I noticed improvements to responsiveness that weren't there before. On my desktop PC (which is joined to a domain) the improvements to the logon experience are even more noticeable. The delay between pressing CTRL-ALT-DELETE and getting the password prompt is pretty much gone.

After logging in to my PC - visually I saw no changes to the desktop shell. However, I did take notice to some minor tweaks to the UI in a few areas after some digging around. For example, the Search option has been removed from the Start menu. More on this later...

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 02:42 PM

Not a lot to it then for a service pack.

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I discovered copying files from one directory to another is a bit faster.

I'm afraid a 'bit' faster ain't good enough, the file copying process needs to have a rocket up its ass to match XP at least.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 02:50 PM

Using the standalone installer, and about 45 minutes later (to an hour and a half) SP1 being installed, with these few enhancements, i think this will be a big SP1 disappointment for Vista users.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 07:40 PM

:talker: so much for my thoughts of possibly runnin veesta after a service pak hit, looks it'll be waitin a while longer :roadrunner:

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 08:57 PM

View Poststormrosson, on Sep 28 2007, 03:40 PM, said:

:talker: so much for my thoughts of possibly runnin veesta after a service pak hit, looks it'll be waitin a while longer :roadrunner:


Veesta...hehe, same way I prefer to spell it, The Cheesiest OS. Eventually I will still load it on an extra drive just so I have working knowledge of it when it comes time to work on Veesta repairs and such. I was hopeful it wouldn't be what it has been after the SP but I guess that was wishful thinking.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 10:21 PM

Well.. actually if you Frequently update your windows through Windows Update.. Sp1 practically not needed for ya..


But what do you expecting from SP1 ?
If we just try to remember Older versions of Windows.. Service Packs was not adding new Features (XP SP2 was Exclusion)..
For Vista now we have the same Good Ol' SP.. With no new "Extra Features".. Just A Big Update pack for you to be happy with All in One solution :talker:

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 12:44 AM

Guess I was hopeful they would have a major performance improvement more than anything, along with any needed typical MS bug fixes and such. Something to make me want to and enjoy using it would be nice, oh well, it'll end up loaded on a spare drive eventually.

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 06:04 AM

I decided to keep Vista on a smaller partition in case I ever wanted to use it for DX10. Now with new games such as World In Conflict which has a big, noticeable difference in graphics between DX9.0c and DX10, it seems I'll have no choice but to use Vista a bit when it comes to gaming. I was hoping that SP1 would make it a less painful experience but now my hopes are starting to fade... :talker:

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 07:11 AM

That sucks that they got rid of the search bar. WTF? That was a great feature.

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 01:49 PM

View PostChristopholofigus, on Sep 29 2007, 10:11 AM, said:

That sucks that they got rid of the search bar. WTF? That was a great feature.

No.. They don't.. :roadrunner:



Actually MS more Concentrating on Security Holes rather than improving performance..
Performance increases will be minimal..


Still for me runs quite fast.. Faster than XP, especially in Games..
Games Won't crash to desktop anymore on Vista :P


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(when I had 1 GB of Ram.. Vista Was running like Crap..)

Thanks For Readin' :talker: :talker:

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 02:08 PM

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THIS WHAT MICROSOFT TELLING US ABOUT MS WinVISTA SP1 :talker:



Introduction
When developing Windows Vista, Microsoft set out to provide higher levels of productivity, mobility, and security, with lower costs. After more than six months of broad availability and usage, it’s evident that these investments are improving the Windows computing experience. For example, in the first six months of use, Windows Vista had fewer security issues than Windows XP (Windows Vista had only 12 issues, and Windows XP had 36). According to the Windows Vista 6-Month Vulnerability Report by Jeffery R. Jones, Windows Vista had fewer security issues than all the popular operating systems he studied. Although most companies are cautious when deploying a new operating system, many have already started testing and evaluating Windows Vista for deployment, and some have already deployed Windows Vista into their production environments and begun seeing the business benefits Windows Vista can provide. Microsoft’s efforts to provide the best Windows experience ever in Windows Vista did not end with its launch. This white paper describes the ways Microsoft strives to continuously improve Windows Vista. It then introduces Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) and describes how the service pack will fit into the ongoing improvement process. Organizations do not need to wait for SP1 to deploy Windows Vista; they are encouraged to begin their Windows Vista evaluation and deployment now:
· Organizations currently evaluating and deploying Windows Vista should continue their evaluation, pilot programs, and deployment on the initial (“Gold”) Windows Vista release. Microsoft provides the tools and guidance needed to deploy Windows Vista today and will provide additional guidance, tools and support for moving to SP1 when the service pack is released.
· Organizations just starting to evaluate Windows Vista should plan a pilot program, targeting the PCs that gain the most business value from Windows Vista (for example, many organizations will find that mobile PCs get the most benefits) and present the simplest upgrade from the gold release of Windows Vista to SP1 (How to Start a Windows Vista Pilot Deployment describes best practices for running a pilot).
· Organizations waiting for Windows Vista SP1 should start their compatibility testing on the gold release of Windows Vista now, and then begin their evaluation and pilot programs on the release candidate of Windows Vista SP1 when it is released. Windows Vista includes architectural changes relative to Windows XP that improve security and reliability. These changes can cause some applications which work on Windows XP not to work on Windows Vista. However, these architectural changes are also part of Windows Vista SP1. For this reason, testing applications on Windows Vista today will be a very good proxy for compatibility with Windows Vista SP1.




Improving the Customer Experience
Microsoft uses Windows Vista instrumentation to learn what issues affect customers most and then address the issues. This instrumentation includes the Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP) and Online Crash Analysis (OCA), both of which are opt-in, anonymous services. Microsoft not only uses this information to fix Windows Vista issues, but it also shares this information with software and hardware vendors so they can fix application compatibility and device driver issues. Posted Image
The traditional service packs with which most organizations are familiar are only one way that Microsoft improves the Windows experience. Continuous improvements to the Windows Vista experience come from numerous channels, including ongoing updates, application compatibility improvements, and device driver improvements. The following sections describe each of these channels in detail.



Ongoing Updates
Ongoing updates address some of the most important issues affecting Microsoft customers. For example, Microsoft recently released two performance and reliability updates that address issues reported by customers (see Microsoft Support articles 938194 and 938979). Microsoft already delivers these and many other Windows Vista updates through various channels, including:
· Windows Update
· Microsoft Download Center
· Private updates for enterprise customers and original equipment manufacturer (OEM) partners
Organizations choose which updates they want to deploy and the methods for deploying them—using Windows Update, for example. Enterprises are more likely to deploy updates using Windows Server® Update Services (WSUS), Microsoft® System Center Configuration Manager 2007, or third-party tools.




Application Compatibility Improvements

Microsoft is making steady progress toward resolving application compatibility issues by engaging with independent software vendors (ISVs) to get major applications—such as antivirus and virtual private networking (VPN) applications—working on Windows Vista. Since the launch, more than 70 major enterprise applications have moved to Windows Vista. These include applications from ISVs like Adobe, Citrix, Oracle, Sun, HP, LANDesk, and IBM. Hundreds more applications have been tested and remediated by ISVs that visited the Microsoft ISV application compatibility lab for weeklong engagements. As a result of these efforts, nearly 2,100 applications now have the Windows Vista logo, (see Figure 1). Applications that are Certified for Windows Vista are designed and tested to deliver a superior experience with PCs running the Windows Vista operating system so software is easy to install, better performing, and more secure, while products that have earned the Works with Windows Vista logo have been tested for baseline compatibility with PCs running the Windows Vista Operating System.

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In addition to helping ISVs resolve application compatibility issues, Microsoft provided robust tools at the Windows Vista launch to help information technology (IT) professionals assess and mitigate problems with existing applications. The primary tool they use is the Application Compatibility Toolkit 5.0.. To help make migrating to Windows Vista easier, Microsoft has created the Application Compatibility Factory (ACF) that connects its enterprise customers with selected partners that deliver high volume, low cost application compatibility and remediation services.




Device Driver Improvements
Device compatibility is also important to Windows Vista customers. As shown in Figure 2, device driver coverage continues to grow for Windows Vista. Microsoft has added 700,000 new device types since the initial Windows Vista release in November 2006. Including device drivers in the box and those available from Windows Update, by July 2007 Windows Vista supported nearly 2.2 million devices. That covers the vast majority of devices in use. The number of Windows Vista logo devices exceeds 10,000, and the growth is outpacing Windows XP.

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Introducing Windows Vista Service Pack 1

In addition to regular Windows Vista updates, application compatibility improvements, and device driver improvements, Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) is another way Microsoft will deliver improvements to the Windows Vista customer experience.
The goal of Windows Vista SP1 is to address key feedback Microsoft has received from its customers without regressing application compatibility. Windows Vista SP1 will deliver improvements and enhancements to existing features that significantly impact customers, but it does not deliver substantial new operating system features. For example, the service pack improves the performance of the desktop shell, but it does not provide a new search user interface or a new version of Windows® Media Center. The updates in Windows Vista SP1 fall into three categories, which the following sections describe in detail:
· Quality improvements, including all previously released updates, which address reliability, security, and performance.
· Improvements to the administration experience, including BitLocker™ Drive Encryption (BDE).
· Support for emerging hardware and standards, such as an Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) and an Extended File Allocation Table (exFAT).

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Quality Improvements
Quality improvements have the broadest impact on all customers. It is the foundation of Windows Vista SP1 and is about improving the overall Windows Vista experience. First, Windows Vista SP1 will include all previously released updates for Windows Vista. It also will include security, reliability, and performance improvements. These improvements target some of the issues Microsoft has identified as the most common causes of operating system crashes and hangs, giving customers a more reliable experience. These updates also improve performance in key scenarios—for example, when copying files or shutting down the computer. The following sections describe many of the security, reliability, and performance improvements that will be in Windows Vista SP1.
Security
Security improvements that will be in Windows Vista SP1 include:
· Provides security software vendors a more secure way to communicate with Windows Security Center.
· Includes application programming interfaces (APIs) by which third-party security and malicious software detection applications can work with kernel patch protection on x64 versions of Windows Vista. These APIs help ISVs develop software that extends the functionality of the Windows kernel on x64 computers without disabling or weakening the protection offered by kernel patch protection.
· Improves the security of running RemoteApp programs and desktops by allowing Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) files to be signed. Customers can differentiate user experiences based on publisher identity.
· Adds an Elliptical Curve Cryptography (ECC) pseudo-random number generator (PRNG) to the list of available PRNGs in Windows Vista.
· Enhances BitLocker Drive Encryption (BDE) to offer an additional multifactor authentication method that combines a key protected by the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) with a Startup key stored on a USB storage device and a user-generated personal identification number (PIN).





Reliability
Windows Vista SP1 will include improvements that target some of the most common causes of crashes and hangs, giving users a more consistent experience. Many of these improvements will specifically address issues identified from the Windows Error Reporting tool. The following list describes some of the reliability improvements that Windows Vista SP1 will include:
· Improved reliability and compatibility of Windows Vista when used with newer graphics cards in several specific scenarios and configurations.
· Improved reliability when working with external displays on a laptop.
· Improved Windows Vista reliability in networking configuration scenarios.
· Improved reliability of systems that were upgraded from Windows XP to Windows Vista.
· Increased compatibility with many printer drivers.
· Increased reliability and performance of Windows Vista when entering sleep and resuming from sleep.



Performance
The following list describes some of the performance improvements that Windows Vista SP1 will include:
· Improves the speed of copying and extracting files.
· Improves the time to become active from Hibernate and Resume modes.
· Improves the performance of domain-joined PCs when operating off the domain; in the current release version of Windows Vista, users would experience long delays when opening the File dialog box.
· Improves performance of Windows® Internet Explorer® 7 in Windows Vista, reducing CPU utilization and speeding JavaScript parsing.
· Improves battery life by reducing CPU utilization by not redrawing the screen as frequently, on certain computers.
· Improves the logon experience by removing the occasional 10-second delay between pressing CTRL-
ALT-DEL and the password prompt displaying.
· Addresses an issue in the current version of Windows Vista that makes browsing network file shares consume significant bandwidth and not perform as fast as expected.




Administration Experience
Many of the changes in Windows Vista SP1 will improve the deployment, management, and support experience for Windows Vista customers. The following list describes some of these enhancements:
· BitLocker Drive Encryption encrypts extra local volumes. For example, instead of encrypting only drive C, customers can also encrypt drive D, E, and so on.
· Addresses problems with printing to local printers from a Windows® Terminal Services session.
· The Network Diagnostics tool will help customers solve the most common file sharing problems, in addition to the basic problems that it already diagnoses.
· Administrators can control the volumes on which to run Disk Defragmenter.
In addition to these changes, Windows Vista SP1 will change the tools that customers use to manage Group Policy. Administrators requested features in Group Policy that simplify policy management. To do this, the service pack will uninstall the Group Policy Management Console (GPMC) and GPEdit.msc will edit local Group Policy by default. In the SP1 timeframe, administrators can download an out-of-band release that will give them the ability to add comments to Group Policy Objects (GPOs) or individual settings and search for specific settings.1




Emerging Hardware and Standards
The technology industry is fast-paced and constantly changing. Throughout the life cycle of any version of the Windows operating system, the industry creates new hardware innovations and defines new standards. Windows Vista SP1 will include support for some of these new hardware innovations and standards, because Microsoft expects them to become increasingly important in the near future. The following list describes some of the enhancements of Windows Vista SP1 that will support these emerging innovations and standards:
· In the future, flash memory storage and consumer devices will use the exFAT file system. Windows Vista SP1 adds support for this file system to Windows Vista.
· The service pack will include support for Secure Digital (SD) Advanced Direct Memory Access (DMA), which will be on compliant SD host controllers soon, to improve transfer performance and decrease CPU utilization.
· x64 PCs can boot using the EFI. Windows Vista currently supports network boot by using Windows Deployment Services for x86, a PC’s basic input/output system (BIOS) for x64 PCs, and EFI for IA-64 PCs. Windows Vista SP1 will add support for network boot by using x64 EFI.
· The service pack will add support for Direct3D 10.1, adding application programming interfaces (APIs)
and features that enable 3-D applications, so game developers can better take advantage of a new generation of Direct3D graphics hardware.
· The Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol (SSTP) is a remote access tunneling protocol that will be part of the Routing and Remote Access Service (RRAS) platform. This protocol helps provide full-network virtual private network (VPN) remote access connections without challenges that other protocols face when traversing NATs, Web proxies, and firewalls. Windows Vista SP1 will include support for SSTP.




Evaluating Windows Vista Service Pack 1
In key areas, Windows Vista SP1 will compare favorably to earlier Windows service packs. Windows® 2000 Service Pack 4 (SP4) and Windows XP SP1 both made limited changes to the user interface and had limited impacts to application compatibility. Both service packs were small in download size. Windows XP SP2 was an exceptional case, as noted in the next paragraph. It significantly impacted the user interface and application compatibility, and was large in download size. While Windows Vista SP1 is still in beta, Microsoft’s intention is that it will make limited changes to the user interface, have limited impact to application compatibility, and the Windows Update and WSUS download size will be small. The purpose of Windows Vista SP1 is different from the purpose of Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2). Windows XP SP2 was a special update—Microsoft recognized that it was in a unique position to address new and emerging security threats, and the service pack was the best answer. To address these threats, Microsoft incorporated significant, well-considered changes into the service pack, which had a significant impact on application compatibility. For example, the service pack enabled Windows Firewall by default, causing some applications to fail until the customer configured the exceptions in the firewall. However, Microsoft determined that the security benefit far outweighed any challenges the changes caused to end users and administrators. (Likewise, moving from Windows XP SP2 to Windows Vista introduced new, well-considered changes, such as User Account Control, which impacted compatibility). Although Windows Vista SP1 does compare favorably to earlier service packs, specific benefits have certain costs:

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Deploying Windows Vista Service Pack 1
Windows Vista SP1 will support a number of deployment scenarios and methods, which the upcoming Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Deployment Guide will describe in detail. This section provides an overview of the delivery methods that Windows Vista SP1 will support. Windows Vista SP1 will support the following delivery methods:
· Express. Requires an Internet connection but minimizes the size of the download by sending only the changes needed for a specific computer (approximately 50 MB for x86-based operating systems).
· Stand-alone. Recommended for computers with limited Internet connectivity and for applying the service pack to multiple computers. The download size is larger than the express package, but customers can apply a single package to any Windows Vista version and language combination (within a platform). Distribution tools like System Center Configuration Manager 2007 use stand-alone packages to deploy Windows Vista SP1.
· Slipstream. The slipstream version of Windows Vista SP1 is media that already contains the service pack, which companies can use to deploy the operating system to new computers or to upgrade existing computers. Availability will be limited. Microsoft will update Windows Vista retail media with Windows Vista SP1 slipstream media in the future. Slipstream media will also be available to Volume Licensing customers.
For express and stand-alone deployment methods, Microsoft recommends the following:
· Laptops must be plugged in to an AC power source.
· A minimum of 7 GB free disk space on the system partition for x86-based operating systems and a minimum of 12 GB free disk space for x64-based operating systems.
· The stand-alone deployment method requires administrative credentials.



Summary
Customers can take advantage of all that Windows Vista has to offer by evaluating and deploying the operating system now. They do not need to wait for Windows Vista SP1. Windows Vista enables higher levels of productivity and mobility than earlier versions of Windows, and it helps lower the cost of ownership. Customers currently evaluating and deploying Windows Vista should continue their evaluation, pilot programs, and deployment on the currently available version of Windows Vista. Microsoft provides the tools and guidance customers need to deploy Windows Vista today and will provide additional guidance, tools, and support for moving to Windows Vista SP1 when Microsoft releases it. Customers just starting to evaluate Windows Vista should plan a pilot program based on the original release and then move to a pilot or deployment when Windows Vista SP1 becomes available. Pilot programs are an effective way to introduce the operating system into the production environment. Pilot testing is best performed on PCs that present a high business value or a simple upgrade path. Customers waiting for Windows Vista SP1 should start their compatibility testing on the currently available release of Windows Vista now, and then begin their evaluation and pilot programs on the release candidate of Windows Vista SP1 when it is released. Windows Vista includes architectural changes relative to Windows XP that improve security and reliability. These changes can cause some applications which work on Windows XP not to work on Windows Vista. However, these architectural changes are also part of Windows Vista SP1. For this reason, testing applications on Windows Vista today will be a very good proxy for compatibility with Windows Vista SP1.
See the whitepaper How to Start a Windows Vista Pilot Deployment today to get started moving to Windows Vista so that your organization can begin taking advantage of the benefits that Windows Vista provides.







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Posted 29 September 2007 - 02:22 PM

Cut the crap. Vista Sp1 is beta.
Vista is without a shadow of dought a vast improvement to XP.

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 03:31 PM

View Postnitram, on Sep 29 2007, 07:22 AM, said:

...Vista Sp1 is beta.
Vista is without a shadow of dought a vast improvement to XP.

that's true. sp is beta. and for me also, vista is quite an improvement over xp. once the final sp is on the majority of machines, and given time to "breath", i'm thinking we'll see issues that linger being patched in future updates.

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 03:50 PM

View Postnitram, on Sep 29 2007, 05:22 PM, said:

Cut the crap. Vista Sp1 is beta.
Vista is without a shadow of dought a vast improvement to XP.


Actually the information - "THIS WHAT MICROSOFT TELLING US ABOUT MS WinVISTA SP1" - Is Really from Microsofts WebSite.. and it is Their Overview.. on what we shall get..

Here you go..

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...;DisplayLang=en


So this is not a crap :talker:

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 03:51 PM

View Postm.oreilly, on Sep 29 2007, 11:31 AM, said:

that's true. sp is beta. and for me also, vista is quite an improvement over xp. once the final sp is on the majority of machines, and given time to "breath", i'm thinking we'll see issues that linger being patched in future updates.
I agree but for now, it's an annoying OS.




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