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Is 'XP Mode' in W7 7 something you'd want to use?


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#1 Nvyseal

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 04:55 PM

images/news/windows7.jpgIt could be Microsoft's most effective response to date to the issue of downward compatibility. But does this mean Windows XP lives on forever in your PC?

Since Microsoft's acquisition of SoftGrid application virtualization two years ago, the company's engineers have known that this technology could present an attractive and even preferable shortcut to the perennial problem of downward compatibility. If you set aside the problem of affordability for a moment, the other key reason businesses remain hesitant to adopt Windows Vista at present is because of the uncertainty that existing business applications will be seamlessly portable into the new environment.

This is much more of a problem for businesses than consumers, although a lot of the excitement around what Microsoft's calling "XP mode" in Windows 7 (whose first and probably only Release Candidate should be available to the general public tomorrow) came from everyday users who perceived the company's move as a nod toward the efficiencies of the past, as opposed to the planned obsolescence of the future. The fact is, businesses continue to invest in software up front with the expectation that it will pay off in the long term, depreciating it like an asset rather than supporting and nurturing it like a resource. And it is for those businesses that Microsoft must ensure that it facilitates and ensures the same general infrastructure over time.

So would everyday consumers have reason to use Windows 7's new Windows Virtual PC in XP Mode? Not typically. Consumer-grade software is usually updated with the moving target of Windows evolution in mind. But if those consumers are also businesspeople, and they're faced with a situation where they need to be able to run their office's software that was developed in the era before .NET, where resources were either built-in or dependent upon DLLs or OCX's (the version of DLLs originally built for Visual Basic) then Windows 7 gives those consumers a serious alternative to having to buy or use two computers. There are indeed many home office workers who have to maintain "the XP machine" separately, and who either cannot or aren't permitted to update those machines for fear of rendering obsolete the software upon which they depend.

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 07:49 AM

Just finished installing "XP mode"

It is a pretty cool add-on to 7.
I have dual monitors so I have 7 running on one and XP on the other.
My curser flies between both monitors without having to throw a switch or re-boot.

It's a two step installation- first the virtual PC Beta then the windows XP mode beta.
Get them both here-
http://www.microsoft...c/download.aspx

took about 45 min for the download and 10 for the install.

Now that I have it I don't really know what to do with it- but like I said , it is kinda cool to have! :P

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 03:44 PM

View PostRoadrunner, on May 6 2009, 03:49 AM, said:

Just finished installing "XP mode"

It is a pretty cool add-on to 7.
I have dual monitors so I have 7 running on one and XP on the other.
My curser flies between both monitors without having to throw a switch or re-boot.

It's a two step installation- first the virtual PC Beta then the windows XP mode beta.
Get them both here-
http://www.microsoft...c/download.aspx

took about 45 min for the download and 10 for the install.

Now that I have it I don't really know what to do with it- but like I said , it is kinda cool to have! ;)
I was kinda searching for it, I thought it was inluded in 7. Bittorrent is acting really weird in 7 so I thought I'd give it a try, but all I found was the plain old Compatibility Mode, which didn't do much. I'll try your link. :D

edit: AMD's little app says my system is not ompatible for hardware virtualization. I'll have to check the BIOS I guess but I don't recall seeing anything like that. Would my Opty be too old? :P

Edited by hog, 06 May 2009 - 03:50 PM.


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Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:30 PM

:P i dunno, though you could always use vmware...

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:38 PM

:P I don't think AMD virtualization is available on 939 and earlier cpu's , at least I never saw a bios switch for amd virtualization on any socket earlier than am2 ;)

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 06:26 PM

Now, that makes me sad. :P But no, I won't use VMWare, it's not all that bad, actually I was searching for an exuse to just try it out.

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 08:23 PM

I've heard a few people complain that they just found out that their processor doesn't support Virtualization Technology.
Here are the specs for core duos-
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/co...re2duo+tab_spec

They do say to check if your processor supports virtualization ttechnology by using these downloads-
AMD-
http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/dynamicDet...&ItemID=172

Intel-
http://www.intel.com...sors/tools/piu/

Seems like most newer processors should support it, but there are exceptions.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:56 PM

View PostRoadrunner, on May 6 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

Seems like most newer processors should support it, but there are exceptions.
That's the thing, mine is not really a "newer" anymore. :P




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