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#1 Guest_scaramonga_*

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Posted 09 November 2007 - 01:46 PM

images/news/vista.jpgOne year ago today, Microsoft released Windows Vista to manufacturing. In the obligatory anniversary post we ask: Was it ready? Will it ever be ready? The answer to the first question is an emphatic "no." Vista wasn't ready. Hardware manufacturers and software developers weren't ready for it. The channel and enterprises weren't ready, and consumers couldn't get it because Vista missed holiday 2006.

Microsoft promised WOW, but the reaction was, "What?" What is different from Windows XP? What is wrong with the hardware requirements? What is the difference between "Capable" and "Ready?" What is this Software Assurance requirement for Vista Enterprise? What happened to the familiarity of Windows XP? What is wrong with my Vista applications and hardware? More recently the "W" question is "When?"--as in when will Microsoft release Vista Service Pack 1?

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Posted 09 November 2007 - 01:57 PM

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Yep, I'll go along with that!!

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Posted 09 November 2007 - 02:27 PM

With the need for playing Crysis and World in Conflict in DX10, I reinstalled Vista last weekend. Two days later, I was back on XP. I think this summarizes my position... I want to give it a chance, but I just can't...

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Posted 09 November 2007 - 10:22 PM

why wont you give it a chance...because theres too much change? Get familar with it before just giving up after 2 days. I've been running it for a year and i find many things i can do better on Vista thank on XP. I agree it wasnt ready when it came out...but when the beta was available for developers to start developing things on it they didnt bother which is emphatically THEIR fault not Microsoft's. Even now they drag their feet on making compliant vista compatible applications. Sp1 wont do much it just speeds it up because of the new kernel update and reliability patches. SP2 will be where we see the true gains...but again thats far far away.

I look at my company and there are people who instantly say no to Vista without even giving it a look or considering what it can do for the company...that in itself is ignorance

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Posted 09 November 2007 - 11:29 PM

View PostBlueScreenOfDeath, on Nov 9 2007, 05:22 PM, said:

... or considering what it can do for the company...
What can it do for a company?

That's a rhetorical question.

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Posted 10 November 2007 - 12:46 AM

View PostBlueScreenOfDeath, on Nov 9 2007, 05:22 PM, said:

why wont you give it a chance...because theres too much change? Get familar with it before just giving up after 2 days. I've been running it for a year and i find many things i can do better on Vista thank on XP. I agree it wasnt ready when it came out...but when the beta was available for developers to start developing things on it they didnt bother which is emphatically THEIR fault not Microsoft's. Even now they drag their feet on making compliant vista compatible applications. Sp1 wont do much it just speeds it up because of the new kernel update and reliability patches. SP2 will be where we see the true gains...but again thats far far away.

I look at my company and there are people who instantly say no to Vista without even giving it a look or considering what it can do for the company...that in itself is ignorance
I mean I would like to use it daily, to move permanently from XP to Vista, but I lose to much performance! First, it took me a hell of a lot of time to make my wireless adapter work properly under Vista (D-Link realesed Vista drivers only in July BTW, and these are not 64-bit compliant). Most games run much slower on Vista at same settings, even though you get DX10 it doesn't compensate for the loss of framerate. Also I started folding again and I think it must be almost 10 times slower on Vista, that means I can't finish the WU's for the deadlines.

I know the drivers stuff is the companies' fault, not Microsoft's. But Vista just has bad performance overall and there's nothing in it that appeals to me enough for "upgrading". Although, I've said this before, I have no problem with the people who enjoy Vista and who like to use it everyday. For me, there is just no reason why I would use it. I honestly tried to find some, but I didn't.

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Posted 10 November 2007 - 02:37 AM

OK, here's my thinking and please, hold the cat calls. I know what I have said about Vista in the past.

When I get my new system finished I am going to load Vista Ultimate x64. I am going to fuel the system with 4 GB DDR2-800 along with the AMD 5200 X2 on the Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4. Since I am not a gamer I will probably go with a pair of 8600. This should give Vista a far chance to either prove or disprove the OS. I don't believe SP1 will really make any real difference. I am willing to do this based on the performance of the OS on the older AMD 3800 X2 with 2 GB DDR-400. This will also prove/disprove my theory concerning Vista Running better on the older hardware. When I get all of this done and have fully tried the system in NORMAL EVERYDAY computing (as opposed to benchmarks or a gaming enviroment), I will post some results and opinions. But to be honest, I really don't see how Vista Ultimate x64 can out perform XP x64 SP2...talker. :moreilly:

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Posted 10 November 2007 - 08:36 AM

:moreilly: I don't know...Vista Ultimate x64 broughht me back to complete x64 bit computing. Yea, i know that XP x64 would run faster with my setup, but Vista runs great IMHO. I love it, there is a nice interface with all the bells and whistles...yes, it is a system hog, but my system handles it just fine (an no, i don't game). I will be interested to see what SP1 does for me however.




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