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[C0LDSH07]

Hey people - just signed up - made my intro - and didn't see a "Support" area - or it may have passed my vision in a scrolling bout - but I was wondering if anyone here would be the wiser to gimme a helping hand here?

I have a ZV6005US Laptop - currently - it basically stock other than a 1GB stick of Kingston RAM I stuffed in it.

It runs a 64bit 3200+ CPU in a 939 Socket - and basically - here goes my question:

I have a desktop running a 3800+ Dual Core 939 Socket CPU (AMD of course ), and I wanted to dump the desktop CPU into the laptop - and vise versa.

Reason being - I think my laptop woudl see a better performance boost from the dual core than my desktop - as I don't really push my desktop as it is (gaming mainly).

My desktop machine is fairly decent - with:

ECS KT800 (came as a combo with the cpu at a dirt cheap price I could'nt pass up on)
(already mentioned)AMD 3800+ Dual Core @ stock speeds (2.0Ghz)
2 GB of OCZ Gold Edition 500Mhz PC4000
X800GTO 256MB DDR3
250GB Seagate Main SATA
1TB HDD's split between internal IDE and USB/IDE

And a couple optical drives

With the 2GB of ram, and the basic (dang near generic) motherboard - I figured - the 3200+ would run fairly decent (at stock speeds or OC'd) in the ECS board and the laptop would see a much better performance boost with a Dual Core CPU. (Confused you yet?)

I'm aware that this would more than likely take a BIOS upgrade - but tryingto find something specific to your model is dang near impossible when it's concerning laptops.

Any ideas, suggestions, insights or experience woudl be greatly appreciated!

Regards & Thanx in Advance!,

C.S.

[nitram]

I dont think its possible to swop a laptop cpu with a desktop cpu. I could be wrong but i would have thought that thay would run at a different bus speed for a start.

[m.oreilly]

heat/power consumption, yeah, the bios, the issue of the cover on the x2 verses fitting with the lappy hsf
(you could get out the xacto knife...)etc. etc. feeling lucky? are ya :cowboy: ? (by the way, welcome to the forums )

[C0LDSH07]

nitram, on Jun 27 2006, 05:13 PM, said:

I dont think its possible to swop a laptop cpu with a desktop cpu. I could be wrong but i would have thought that thay would run at a different bus speed for a start.

Yes - it's possible - the AMD Mobile line (Doesn't exactly apply here - although I am hoping). Ran at a lower voltage and without a multiplier lock - but I believe most of them didn't have the better of the FSB - could be wrong there

m.oreilly - this is what I have been able to find for comparisons (and thank you for the welcome!):

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AMD Athlon X2 3800+ (Desktop Machine)
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Frequency: 2.0GHz
Cache Sizes: 2 x ( 64KB L1 Data + 64KB L1 Instruction Cache / 512 kB L2 Cache (Exclusive))
CPU to MC: 2.0 GHz
Memory Controller: Integrated 128-bit memory controller
(arbitrated through System Request Interface between cores)
Supported Memory: PC1600, PC2100, PC2700, PC3200 and PC4000* DDR memory
HyperTransport Links: 1
HyperTransport Spec: 2GHz (2x 1000MHz / DDR)
Effective data bandwidth: 14.4 GB/sec [8GB/sec x1 HyperTransport link + 6.4GB/sec memory bandwidth]
Packaging: 939-pin organic micro-PGA
Fab location: AMD's Fab 30 wafer fabrication facility in Dresden, Germany
Process Technology: 90nm (.09-micron) Silicon on Insulator (SOI)
Approx. Transistor count: 154 million**
Approx. Die Size: 142 mm2 ***
Nominal Voltage: 1.30 V
Max Thermal Power: 110 W****
Max Icc (processor current): 85 A
Max Ambient Case Temp: 49-63 degrees Celsius

Found here:

http://www.amdboard.com/athlon_64_3800_review.html

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AMD Athlon 3200+ NewCastle
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Brand AMD
Series Athlon 64
Model ADA3200BPBOX
CPU Socket Type Socket 939
Core NewCastle (Confirmed now...)
Multi-Core Single-Core
Name Athlon 64 3200+
Operating Frequency 2.0GHz
HT 2000MHz
L1 Cache 64KB+64KB
L2 Cache 512KB
Process Type 90 nm
Hyper-Transport Support Yes
64 bit Support Yes
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage 1.35/1.4V

All I could gather from NewEgg.com

The Dual Core is supposed to tbe the cooler of the the two with lower voltages - as far as the die itself - that remains as a concern now that it has been mentioned. I suppose the only way to confirm this is to actually pull it and compare.

I appreciate your responses guys! Thanks! Will let you know if I find any other helpful info in case someone else is intrested in this thread

Regards,

C.S.

Edited by C0LDSH07, 27 June 2006 - 07:20 PM.

[Nvyseal]

Well, I learn something new every day

[C0LDSH07]

I have the Laptop CPU running in my desktop machine now - seems to be running fine - lil lower temps as well - not sure how this is going to affect the Dual Core in the laptop now - but hopefully I can at least get to BIOS to see the temps @ BIOS / Idle.

CPU-Z v1.34:


So far so good

Anyone have any good forums or sites for BIOS tweaks on laptops? Might be a far shot - but before I even try this - I feel I'm going to have to be prepared and maybe do some more research. I'm on the search ATM - crossin' my fingers

Edited by C0LDSH07, 27 June 2006 - 07:22 PM.

[m.oreilly]

the specs you posted, and the cpuz ones are different (i was wondering how a newcastle would have sse3,
and be 90nm...). best of luck with the lappy/dual core m8

[C0LDSH07]

m.oreilly, on Jun 27 2006, 07:32 PM, said:

the specs you posted, and the cpuz ones are different (i was wondering how a newcastle would have sse3,
and be 90nm...). best of luck with the lappy/dual core m8

Roger that - for some reason - I'm having a tough time finding specs for this particular CPU - that was the closest I could find. Prolly came from a Venice core..? I'm wondering if HP didn't have some hand in a "propietary" CPU line - or maybe I'm not looking in the right spot LOL Probably the latter.

Here is the lappie with the said CPU (well - was anyways - in this desktop ATM):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00091UIK...glance&n=541966

[patman174]

I never thought bout switching a laptop processor with a desktop, I guess its would work on some situations, but not others. I dont have the guts to try it myself LOL, processors cost to much for my poor wallet.